Dec 6, 2012, 5:50 PM EST
Right now, the Pac-12 is not a very good basketball conference.
No one will argue that fact, and I think it’s fair to say that the only reason there isn’t a discussion about the Pac-12 being the third best conference on the West Coast is because St. Mary’s and BYU haven’t been quite as good as they were expected to be.
So on the surface, I think the point that Percy Allen, the Washington beat writer for the Seattle Times, argues in this piece is generally on target. The league isn’t all that good, they haven’t notched a ton of marquee non-conference victories and they’ll have the chance to do so in the coming weeks.
But once Allen gets into specifics is where his argument gets thrown off course. Specifically, this:
The Pac-12 had just two teams (No. 11 seed Colorado and No. 12 seed California) in the 2012 NCAA tourney and the league will struggle to do better next year unless it can win some big games this month.
The reason that the Pac-12 needed Colorado to make a spirited run to the league’s automatic bid last season just to get an at-large bid to the tournament was because they basically did nothing, as a league, of significance in non-conference play. Stanford beat Colorado State and NC State. Oregon State beat Texas. Cal, Washington, Arizona and Oregon — the four teams that were listed on bubble watches — had as many good non-conference wins as I did last year. As a result, the Pac-12 had a miserable RPI — something on par with Conference USA in a down year for Memphis — which essentially cost them any chance of having more than one team put together a strong enough profile to earn an at-large bid.
This season is different.
For starters, the Pac-12 is currently ranked as the second best league in the RPI, and while it’s early and that could end up being way to high at the end of the season, it’s deserved thus far in the year. Why? Because the league has wins against UNLV, Murray State, Baylor, Colorado State, Northern Iowa, St. Louis, Arkansas, Boise State, Purdue and Georgia Tech. All 10 of those teams have a shot at making the Big Dance this year, which means that even without another notable non-conference win, the Pac-12 is already in much better position than they were last year.
And that’s before you consider the fact that there haven’t been as many horrifying non-conference losses, although no one is ready to call Cal Poly or Sacramento State a ‘good’ loss.
The top of the league is probably worse than we expected, especially UCLA, but as a whole, the Pac-12 is deeper and more balanced this season than it was last year. There are more middle-of-the-pack teams with a chance to make some noise in March and the bottom of the league is no longer a joke.
This league will not be stuck with just two bids again this year.
Nov 27, 2014, 3:14 AM EST
A lot is riding on this season for St. John’s. Can they consistently be the ‘grown up’ team they claimed to be on Wednesday night?
Nov 27, 2014, 3:07 AM EST
Two Big East teams made statements in the Bahamas, and No. 3 Arizona won the Maui Invitational.
Nov 27, 2014, 2:07 AM EST
Arizona scored 22 points off of 14 San Diego State turnovers, and that along with good foul shooting proved to be the difference.
Nov 27, 2014, 12:56 AM EST
Georgetown committed 19 turnovers, but they shot 49 percent from the field and earned another quality win for the Big East.
Nov 26, 2014, 10:22 PM EST
Through five games Louisville is shooting 24-for-105 from three. They’ll need to shoot better than that when Ohio State visits next Tuesday.
Nov 26, 2014, 9:11 PM EST
Sir’Dominic Pointer picked off Minnesota center Elliot Eliason’s outlet pass and made the big man pay for his mistake.
Nov 26, 2014, 8:05 PM EST
Justin Reed was one of America East’s best guards in each of his first two seasons, but that hasn’t been the case in 2014-15.
Nov 26, 2014, 6:42 PM EST
After launching 22 three-pointers in the first half, Oklahoma took a wiser approach to the offensive end of the floor as they outlasted No. 22 UCLA.
Nov 26, 2014, 5:29 PM EST
It’s hard to put too much stake in one loss, but there are a couple of things from this game that we need to keep an eye on.
Nov 26, 2014, 5:24 PM EST
Cameron Biedscheid averaged 6.2 points per game as a freshman at Notre Dame in 2012-13.
Nov 26, 2014, 4:37 PM EST
Joining Cullen Neal on the sideline is Arthur Edwards, who is expected to miss 4-6 weeks thanks to a dislocated finger.
Nov 26, 2014, 3:51 PM EST
The importance of this win for Butler cannot be overstated.
Nov 26, 2014, 3:19 PM EST
JayVaughn Pinkston is the leader and go-to guy for Villanova. And he is not their star because … why?
Nov 26, 2014, 12:02 PM EST
Gordon is averaging 10.5 points this season.
Nov 26, 2014, 11:20 AM EST
Not a bad way to kick off the Thanksgiving weekend
Nov 26, 2014, 9:00 AM EST
He was arrested on suspicion of sexual assault.
Nov 26, 2014, 7:00 AM EST
Angry John Beilein is the best John Beilein.
Nov 26, 2014, 12:28 AM EST
Pinkston made a couple of huge plays down the stretch.
Nov 26, 2014, 12:10 AM EST
Another busy night of college hoops as the Maui semifinals wrap up and Arkansas gets a statement road win.
Nov 25, 2014, 11:50 PM EST
Maryland pulled off one of the biggest upsets of the young season as they outplayed No. 13 Iowa State for much of the game in front of a pro-Cyclone crowd in Kansas City.
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- If No. 12 Villanova doesn’t have a star on their roster, no one told JayVaughn Pinkston 0
- JayVaughn Pinkston’s block gives No. 12 Villanova a win over No. 19 Michigan (VIDEO) 2
- Maryland upsets No. 13 Iowa State as fearless freshmen mix with gritty veterans for balanced effort 3
- Rondae Hollis-Jefferson’s selflessness during the Maui Invitational will help No. 3 Arizona in the long run 0
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